21-May-93 3:53:03-GMT,58136;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU by CAMIS.Stanford.EDU (4.1/inc-1.0) id AA20192; Thu, 20 May 93 20:53:00 PDT Full-Name: Info-Mac Moderator Received: by SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU (4.1/inc-1.0) id AA20794; Thu, 20 May 93 18:45:36 PDT Message-Id: <9305210145.AA20794@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU> Date: Thu, 20 May 93 18:45:30 PDT From: The Moderators Reply-To: Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #106 To: info-mac-list@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU Info-Mac Digest Thu, 20 May 93 Volume 11 : Issue 106 Today's Topics: [*] Address-Book-361.hqx [*] background-hider.hqx [*] bbedit-sort-10.hqx [*] BBEdit 2.5 Demo Package [*] DAYNA Port Drivers version 7.5.1 [*] Deskwriter 3.9 Drivers [*] Endnote Plus, and Endlink Demo's [*] Jurassic Park Logo & icon [*] MacBandit 1.1.hqx [*] Mac Gifts submission [*] Mathos AfterDark module [*] mission-thunderbolt-tips.txt [*] Second Update to Bulletin Boards and Beyond [*] SitC Lister 1.0.2.sit [*] the-macs-10b1.cpt.hqx [*] TimeVideo.2.5 [*] UnStuffit 3.0.5 [*] vendor-da-1.4 [*] vendor-da-1.4bw [*] webss 3.0b2 [*] Yo-Yo v0.8b Extension (INIT) 68040 accelerators for SE/30 (A) [B.Junior Andrew Welch's Address (A) AppleLink address for Quark (A) Can I translate Word documents to TeX (not text) easily? Contact Software phone # (A) Date formats Default directory setter Directories & Subdirectories Diskless Macs Falcon MC Update Fund-raising Software Recommendations Needed how to make a startup screen Igor (Numerical Analysis) for the Mac (Q) Installer scripts (Q) JMP version 3 Laser Driver 8.0? (A) LaserWriter Pro 600 vs. HP LaserJet 4M? Looking for Czech font LW Pro 600 vs. HP LJ4M--- OOPS! never mind... Mac Expo Boston MAC TCP/SYS 7.1 Problems with LocalPath Serial Loop Back Cable sharing two CDROMs with the same title Trash Can won't Delete! upgrade Centris 610 cpu (A) ZiffNet/Mac ZiffNet/Mac Software (c) ZiffNet CopyWrongs The Info-Mac newsgroup is moderated by Bill Lipa and Gordon Watts. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files and indices are in /info-mac/help. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 18 May 1993 14:07 +0100 (MET) From: Hans de Wolf Subject: [*] Address-Book-361.hqx This upload contains the most recent version of the Address Book shareware program (version 3.6.1) [Archived as /info-mac/app/address-book-361.hqx; 358K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 93 01:18:37 -0700 From: Bill Dugan Subject: [*] background-hider.hqx Application name: Background Hider Category: util This is a little app that takes 20K of memory and opens a big black window that covers your entire startup monitor. I wrote this one day because it bothered me that Microprose's game Civilization doesn't entirely hide the desktop, yet it changes the palette all the time, so every time the palette is changed, the Finder sees the need to redraw every single icon that sits on your desktop, even if "Hide Finder" is on. So now I run the Background Hider application, hide it, launch Civilization, go through the initial alerts to generate my world, choose "Hide Others," switch to Background Hider, and switch back to Civ. It does seem to make play a tiny bit faster than it is without Background Hider. bdugan@gnu.ai.mit.edu [Archived as /info-mac/gui/background-hider.hqx; 7K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 1993 19:53:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Carl Bryan Burch Subject: [*] bbedit-sort-10.hqx Sort Lines (version 1.0, (c)1993, Carl B. Burch) This BBEdit extension adds to BBEdit the ability to sort lines, much like the Unix utility "sort", with some options from "sort": * Ignoring each line's first n characters, * Sorting in reverse, * Removing duplicate lines, * Ignoring the lines' leading white space, and * Folding uppercase to lowercase. This program is free and may be distributed freely provided that the information file accompanies it. [Archived as /info-mac/text/bbedit-sort-10.hqx; 15K] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 1993 15:28:45 -0400 From: bbedit@world.std.com (BBEdit Support) Subject: [*] BBEdit 2.5 Demo Package The attached BinHex file is a StuffIt Deluxe archive which contains a demonstration version of BBEdit 2.5. [Archive maintainers: since this is a demo package, it does -not- supersede BBEdit Lite.] Here's an excerpt from the notes which accompany the demo: This demonstration version of BBEdit 2.5 is identical in function to the full version, with the following exceptions: - "Save" and "Save As..." are not supported. You can create a new and untitled editing window, but you can't save it to disk; conversely, you can open and edit existing text files, but you can't save the changes. - Every page that you print will have "BBEdit 2.5 Demo" stamped across it, regardless of the setting of the "Rubber Stamp" option when printing. - When you start up the demo version, a dialog box will come up reminding you that it is a demo version. In addition, the full BBEdit 2.5 package includes source to the standard BBEdit Extensions and information on how to write your own. For further information, download and extract the demo package, or send mail to bbedit@world.std.com. R. [Archived as /info-mac/demo/bbedit-25.hqx; 470K] ------------------------------ Date: 18 May 1993 11:52:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Kermit's Buddy! Subject: [*] DAYNA Port Drivers version 7.5.1 Folks, Here is the latest version of the DAYNAPort Ethertalk drivers. I downloaded it from AppleLink and am submitting it on behalf of the folks at DAYNA. Hope it helps you folks out!! :) -Bob Martin -- Graphics@eku.bitnet or graphics@acs.eku.edu [Archived as /info-mac/cfg/dayna-port-ethertalk-drivers-751.hqx; 533K] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 20:32:39 -0600 From: b-olson@nwu.edu (Brian David Olson) Subject: [*] Deskwriter 3.9 Drivers I just got the new drivers from Hewlett Packard for the Deskwriter. When I ordered them (I didn't feel like waiting any longer ;-) they told me that I was free to upload them. So here you go. I haven't tried them out yet, I wanted to send them to the archives first. I hope that they solve all of the problems with 3.1! ...brian [Archived as /info-mac/cfg/hp-deskwriter-drivers-39.hqx; 782K] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 19:29:44 -0755 From: dwv@magic.ucsb.edu (David Valentine) Subject: [*] Endnote Plus, and Endlink Demo's This is the latest Demo of Niles and Assoc Endnote+ 1.3 Excerpt From the Manual: Introducing EndNote Plus Welcome to EndNote Plus, an Enhanced Reference Database and Bibliography Maker. As the subtitle suggests, EndNote Plus is a program with a dual purpose. First, EndNote Plus is a database manager-specialized in storing, managing, and searching for bibliographic references in your private reference library. Second, EndNote Plus is a bibliography maker-it builds lists of cited works automatically, and can format references to paste into footnotes as well. EndNote scans your word processor paper for in-text citations. It then compiles a bibliography using the information in your database. Finally, it will produce a copy of your paper, reformatting the in-text citations and placing the bibliography at the end. You select the style to use and EndNote does the rest! EndNote can reformat documents created by Microsoft Word 3, 4, and 5, WordPerfect 1.0 - 2.1, MacWrite 5.0, MacWrite II, WriteNow 1.0-3.0, Nisus 3 and FrameMaker 3. It can also reformat documents in RTF (Rich Text Format), and plain text documents. EndLink is the online database import facility for EndNote. It is an add-on module to EndNote which enables you to import journal references from online databases into your EndNote libraries. EndLink is not a program itself, rather it is a resource file which, when present in the same folder as the EndNote program, endows EndNote with a new import capability. To use EndLink, you log on to your database service, and capture the results of your search as they are listed to the screen. Then you start EndNote, Import the resulting text file using EndLink, and the references are imported directly into an EndNote library. Further instructions on begin on page 28. This file replaces the /end-note-plus.hqx archive as /demo/endnote-plus-1.3.hqx [Archived as /info-mac/demo/endnote-plus-13.hqx; 621K] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 93 10:56:06 -0700 From: Jon Pugh Subject: [*] Jurassic Park Logo & icon Here's a 300 x 300 32 bit QT compressed PICT of the Jurrasic Park logo with a nifty custom icon (not just the Photoshop version of the PICT) for you people who just can't wait to get into it. ;) This works great in After Dark's logo module. By the way, scanning this kind of crud in isn't as easy as it seems. I had to crop out the text and replace it with other parts of the logo, then replace all the background red to make it even, and then I had to smooth out the glowing circle. Sharp eyes will be able to pick out the paste lines on the left and right near the bottom of the circle. The rest of you won't notice. Anyhow, then I had to play extensively to make the icon without the square border. All in all, it beat working. ;) Jon [Archived as /info-mac/grf/jurassic-park-logo-icon.hqx; 58K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 1993 00:24:26 -0500 (CDT) From: "Anthony F. Gaudiano II" Subject: [*] MacBandit 1.1.hqx This is a $10 Shareware Slot machine game. Enjoy. Anthony F. Gaudiano II SFASU Apple Student Rep. Applelink: ST0503 Internet: Z_GAUDIANOAF@CCSVAX.SFASU.EDU Tenet: anthonyg@tenet.edu Disclaimer: I didn't write it, don't blame me if it blows up on ya', I am just a satisfied player of this program. [Archived as /info-mac/game/mac-bandit-11.hqx; 44K] ------------------------------ Date: 19 May 93 03:24:30 EDT From: Matthew.O.Williams@Dartmouth.EDU (Matthew O. Williams) Subject: [*] Mac Gifts submission The following file is a PD HyperCard version of The Time Machine by H.G. Wells. Please send it far and wide. The stack is self documenting, so I have not included a readme. It is compressed into a SEA with disk doubler (and binhexed by my mail program). NOTE: The following Macintosh file(s) are enclosed with this message, in BinHex format. If your mail system does not convert BinHex files automatically, you will need to transfer the message to a Mac and run the BinHex application to decode it. Filename: The Time Machine 1.0.sea Size: 179614 bytes [Archived as /info-mac/card/the-time-machine.hqx; 241K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 93 13:02:17 EDT From: wang@pennmess.physics.upenn.edu ( Huangxin Wang) Subject: [*] Mathos AfterDark module This is a renamed version of an AD module, the original name is "WallPaper", due to a trademark conflict with "Though I Could"'s "WallPaper" product, now the new name is "Mathos". (Moderator: please replace the "WallPaper" AD module in the ftp site by this one. Thanks!) I hope this can satisfy the lawyer and apologize for any inconvinience thus caused. Though I should say that I felt a chill down my spine when I learned the kind-hearted lawyer actually tracked me down to my school and sent me an enthusiast letter --- I thought I still lived in the Cultural Revolution in China 25 years ago :-). Mathos After Dark module is free. Here is a brief description of what's Mathos: "Mathos" AfterDark module runs on a color Mac (it won't crash on Black&White Mac, but just not pretty). It displays a complex color pattern from coarse to fine) calculated by some complex/number crunching math formulus. It automatically dumps out the screen as a PICT file when the screen pattern is completed at the desired resolution; (You can turn off this option). Program written by Huangxin Wang, University of Pennsylvania [Archived as /info-mac/gui/ad/mathos.hqx; 17K] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 93 15:07:06 -0400 From: jdsb@egr.duke.edu Subject: [*] mission-thunderbolt-tips.txt Dear MTB player, Below I include my much improved list of hints for Mission Thunderbolt. Please do not read this if you don't want spoilers. Note that this edition contains spoilers from a board discussion with the author! SPOILERS! My thanks go to all the people who posted this information. I did not credit each person since there were so many and it would take up space. Some of the hints were added by me. Sterling [Archived as /info-mac/game/mission-thunderbolt-tips.txt; 46K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 93 19:21:28 -0700 From: aboba@netcom.com (Bernard Aboba) Subject: [*] Second Update to Bulletin Boards and Beyond Please find enclosed the second update to Bulletin Boards and Beyond. This update covers the history of FrEdMail, MUDs, TCP/IP for the PC, and UNIX Tips and Tricks. To read it, you will need the SuperViewer Classic application, which was included with the first update, but is not included with this one. [Archived as /info-mac/info/comm/bbs-and-byond-update-2.hqx; 229K] ------------------------------ Date: 18 May 1993 15:20:06 -0400 (EDT) From: LPL@epavax.rtpnc.epa.gov Subject: [*] SitC Lister 1.0.2.sit Version 1.0.2 of SitC Lister, a utility for TeleFinder, FirstClass, and NovaLink Pro Sysops to generate file lists with descriptions. Tabby compatible. Requires System 7. Shareware $25. v 1.0.2 fixes a couple of bugs. [Archived as /info-mac/comm/sit-c-102.hqx; 41K] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 11:28:51 PDT From: "M. David Greenspon" Subject: [*] the-macs-10b1.cpt.hqx the MACS is a freeware application which displays a large number of specs for all Macs that have ever been released. I got the idea for this last fall when document-based lists of specs started appearing on ftp sites. In a document, it's hard to show many types of specs in a compact space. the MACS lets you select a Mac from a pop-up menu and shows all of its information in easily readable form in a window. You also get the machine icon and a button to play the startup sound. the MACS has a reasonably powerful search function. You can use it to search for all Macs that have, for example, a 32-bit data bus, or less than 512K of VRAM standard, that were released on Jan. 1, 1989 or later, or that do not have an ethernet port. In the future, the MACS will be able to compare two machines by displaying the specs that they do not have in common. The information about a particular Mac, or the results of a search, can be copied as text to the clipboard or printed. Complete help is included within the application. Things the MACS doesn't, and probably will never, include: prices and benchmarks (since these vary so much), and any kind of hardware besides the computers themselves. To get this info you'll have to ftp some of the reports other people have written, especially the upcoming Hardware Guide.This is a beta version of the MACS. I don't have all the specs yet. The purpose of this release is to have people send me bug reports, corrections, specs I don't have, and suggestions. I hope to release version 1.0 final in June before I leave school for the summer. [Archived as /info-mac/info/hdwr/the-macs-10b1.hqx; 81K] ------------------------------ Date: 18 May 1993 20:44:27 -0500 From: "Denis Pelli" Subject: [*] TimeVideo.2.5 Subject:TimeVideo.2.5 8:26 PM 5/18/93 Please accept the enclosed submission to the info-mac and other Mac archives. In info-mac it belongs in the "Configuration" folder. (NOTE to Arizona Mac Users Group: this is a component of the VideoToolbox, so you already have my permission to include this in your CD-ROM collection.) TimeVideo.2.5.sit May 18, 1993 TimeVideo is a Macintosh test program that checks out the timing of all video devices in anticipation of their use in critical real-time applications, e.g. movies or lookup table animation. For each video card, TimeVideo measures the video frame rate, frequency of VBL interrupts (supposed to be one per frame), how long it takes to load the clut, and how much of the screen you can fill with a real-time (one-image-per-frame) movie. And it does a write-then-read test of the video card's clut. These tests are performed for every pixel depth, in both gray and color modes, for every video card. Just double-click the application and watch it do its stuff. TimeVideo, and complete source in THINK C, is included in VideoToolbox.sea (look in Info-Mac/source/c or MacPsych). Denis Pelli Professor of Neuroscience Institute for Sensory Research Syracuse University Syracuse, NY 13244-5290 denis_pelli@isr.syr.edu CHANGES IN VERSION 2.5 Test both color and gray modes. Estimate gray-mode color transformation matrix, and use it to assess gray error. Cleaned up mode indexing to work even with original 32-bit QD, which had buggy HasDepth. Support old Mac II 24-bit NuBus addressing. Fixed two places where I used garbage in place of a linear color table when gdType==directType. Fixed RectToAddress to always return a 32-bit address, so it won't crash under System 6. Fixed bug in GDTestClutHash in GDTestClut.c in response to bug report by Jonathan Brecher. Changed SetEntriesQuickly to respect the color/gray mode of device. CHANGES IN VERSION 2.4b Display Testing window with gray wedge on test screen. Restore compatibility with 1-bit qd. Support old Mac II 24-bit NuBus addressing. Fixed two places where I used garbage in place of a linear color table when gdType==directType. Use new GDNewLinearColorTable. Estimate color transformation matrix, and use it to assess gray error. Fixed RectToAddress to always return a 32-bit address, so it won't crash under System 6. CHANGES IN VERSION 2.3b No longer attribute any meaning to video mode number. CHANGES IN VERSION 2.2 Recognize gray1 error. CHANGES IN VERSION 2.1 Reorganized the printout. Added clut testing. Added high-priority timing. Added visual inspection for black specks during clut update. CHANGES IN VERSION 1.15: Recompiled with new IdentifyMachine and GDVideo. CHANGES IN VERSION 1.14: Report ROM version as 124+6*256. CHANGES IN VERSION 1.13: Report ROM version. CHANGES IN VERSION 1.12: Faster. Updated explanatory text. CHANGES IN VERSIONS 1.10, 1.11: Added version resource for Finder. CHANGES IN VERSION 1.09: Enhanced to work with or without color quickdraw. [Archived as /info-mac/cfg/time-video-25.hqx; 76K] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 1993 15:14:51 EDT From: takemoto@xtal0.harvard.edu Subject: [*] UnStuffit 3.0.5 This is UnStuffit 3.0.5, from Alladin Systems. It expands Stuffit archives, and allows you to join segmented Stuffit archives. This second function is not done by Stuffit Expander. IMHO, the only reason to download this is if you need to join segmented Stuffit archives. Otherwise, download Stuffit Expander instead. UnStuffit is freeware. Darin Takemoto takemoto@xtal0.harvard.edu [Archived as /info-mac/tmit/unstuffit-305.hqx; 123K] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 1993 11:47:30 -0600 From: ehfm@midway.uchicago.edu (Eric Hoffmann) Subject: [*] vendor-da-1.4 I am uploading this file on behalf of Bill Baldridge. VendorDA v1.4 contains around 1000 recently verified vendor contact numbers. All the big Macintosh software players, peripheral companies, hard drive manufacturers are listed. Bill starts with Mac Product Registry's listing of over 1200+ numbers, adds numbers not listed, and then verifies as many new additions and changes as possible. You can drop this right into your Apple Menu Items folder if you are using System 7.0, or you may use the Font/DA mover on 6.0 installations. This version works with all Macs except those which use a built-in monochrome display (see separate posting for the BW version). [Archived as /info-mac/info/hdwr/vendor-da-14.hqx; 100K] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 1993 11:49:25 -0600 From: ehfm@midway.uchicago.edu (Eric Hoffmann) Subject: [*] vendor-da-1.4bw VendorDA v1.4BW contains around 1000+ recently verified vendor contact numbers. All the big Macintosh software players, peripheral companies, hard drive manufacturers are listed. Drop this right into your Apple Menu Items folder if you are using System 7.0, or you may use the Font/DA mover on 6.0 installations. This version works with Macs which use a built-in monochrome display (see separate posting for the color version). [Archived as /info-mac/info/hdwr/vendor-da-14bw.hqx; 73K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 93 09:18 N From: Subject: [*] webss 3.0b2 WEBSs is a highly interactive software system, based on the hypertext concept, which allows for creating and consulting Integrated Electronic Books (IEB) on Macintosh computers. An IEB is composed of a collection of documents that can be interconnected with the help of networks of links and organized with tables of contents. FEATURES WEBSs features include : - an online tutorial which takes you step-by-step through WEBSs key features, - an integrated scripting environment (including an object- oriented language and a powerful browser) that allows you to automate complex series of actions and to enhance the behaviour of the WEBSs application by attaching scripts to objects and groups of objects, - a text editor with formatting capabilities (font, size, style, color, justification), - import of pictures saved in PICT format, - browsers (=tables of contents), a powerful structuring tool to hierarchically organize documents, - creation of links to jump from one place in a document to another (even in another document), - facilities for creating sets of heterogeneous objects (documents, links, etc.) that can be used in scripts, - Balloon Help for all menus and menu commands. DISTRIBUTION WEBSs is copyrighted freeware. You can give it to others, but you must redistribute the complete WEBSs package (including this Read Me file). You cannot sell it (except for reasonable downloading fees). Development of WEBSs was funded in part by grants from the Swiss National Science Foundation. SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS WEBSs works with System 6.x and 7.0 (it wasnYt tested with System 7.1, but it should work!). Balloon Help requires System 7. WEBSs uses 1.5MB of RAM. This is a beta version, which may contain some bugs. See the enclosed Read Me file for more information. [Archived as /info-mac/text/webss-30b2.hqx; 454K] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 93 11:40:03 -0500 From: craig@icm1.icp.net (Craig A. Haney) Subject: [*] Yo-Yo v0.8b Extension (INIT) This is it Yo-Yo the original. A System 7 power user utility. Have you ever had the urge to turn on your Macintosh and begin working where you last left off, with the same applications and documents open and running? This is the first step to such a utility. I hope you enjoy watching the product mature. This version only handles applications. When you Restart or Shutdown >From the Finder, the same applications will be running when you start up again. Future versions are planned to handle open documents, so when you start up you truely are where you left off in your open documents. As applications are started, an alias for that application will be created in the Startup Items Folder. When an application quits, the alias previously placed in the Startup Items folder will be removed. Upon a Restart or Shutdown from the Finder, applications which quit will not remove the alias. This is how Yo-Yo 'remembers' what applications to start. Do not include this on the CD-ROM. craig@icp.net [Archived as /info-mac/gui/yo-yo-08b.hqx; 15K] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 93 11:14:12 EST From: Robert DeMaria Subject: 68040 accelerators for SE/30 (A) In response to Dr. Mueller's question on accelerators for the SE/30, may I suggest reading the June 1993 issue of MACWORLD they have several useful articles on upgrading your MAC. In response to your question on accelerators, they compare 4 accelerators for the SE/30. One was the Fusion TokaMac 25MHz 040 (Magellan 040) which ranked second in overall speed compared to the Day Star PowerCache 50MHz 030. If anyone is thinking about upgrading your Mac, I would take a look at their articles. They also have a informative comparsion chart of different Macs. Hope this helps. -Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 93 13:15:46 PST From: B.Junior Subject: [B.Junior > hi there. > > In first place, i know you are a busy person, and i'm boring you > for sure, but i'm a recent guy at Macintosh world that needs some help :-) > > I'm in Electronics and Telecomunications at University of Aveiro, > Portugal. Yesterday i've downloaded PSpice from "app" directory, i've > decoded it with BINHEX, operation ok without errors. But when i've tried > to run it, i had an error message, it seames that the file wasn't > executable ! Can you sugest me anything ? > > In a file whith the progs descriptions someone have mentioned > a program named PseudoFPU or Software FPU ! what this means ? that there > is a software package that can "emulate" a FPU ?!?! > > What compressors/decompressors you think i should download ? I have > BINHEX and Stuffit, but i've notice that some files in the dir "app" need > another treatment. > > Regards > > B.Junior ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 10:06:29 -0400 From: Ed Ver Hoef Subject: Andrew Welch's Address (A) Neil, In a recent info-mac you asked for Andrew Welch's e-mail address. I can't help you on that score directly but if you will settle for a snail mail address, it's: Andrew Welch Ambrosia P.O. Box 23140 Rochester, NY 14692 He apparently has formed this company, Ambrosia, to market his software. I recently received a disk full of some of his software as a consequence of registering Easy Envelopes. I hope this helps. Ed Ver Hoef ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 93 12:42:38 -0700 From: moynihan@venice.sedd.trw.com (Bill Moynihan) Subject: AppleLink address for Quark (A) In article <9305200520.AA28664@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU> you write: > >Date: 19 May 1993 16:58:40 -0400 (EDT) >From: ARTXM436@ksuvxa.kent.edu >Subject: AppleLink address for Quark > >Hi Netters, > >Can someone supply me with the AppleLink address for Quark. > >Cheers, >Tom Mahon >artxm436@ksuvxa.kent.edu > Tom, Attached please find an AppleLink address search for "quark". Hope it helps! Listings that match quark C.OWCHU "Quark Int'l, Carla Ow-Chu,PRT" D0605 "Quark, Fred Ebrahimi,PRT" D0650 "Quark, Jane Mosher,PRT" D0658 "Quark, A Evangelista-France,PRT" D0660 "Quark, Yuko Hayakawa,PRT" D0707 "Quark, Denise Ryan,PRT" D1589 "Quark, Micheal Valentine Smith,PRT" D1590 "Quark, Mark Niemann-Ross,PRT" D1591 "Quark, Peter Warren,PRT" D1740 "Quark, Cathy Blackburn,PRT" D1985 "Quark, Charlotte Isoline,PRT" DIANA.F "Quark, Diana Freedman,PRT" DK0149 "Quark Media/Kristensen,Hoje,DK,IAC" DK0150 "Quark Media House,Hoje,DK,IAC" DONNA.COHEN "Quark, Donna Cohen,PRT" ED.OWENS "Quark, Ed Owens,PRT" HECTOR.LOPEZ "Quark, Hector Lopez,PRT" J.SIRONEN "Quark, Joel Sironen,PRT" JOANNE.V "Quark, Dealer Support,PRT" KRIS.MURRAY "Quark, Kris Murray,PRT" LINDA.BRYANT "Quark, Linda Bryant,PRT" LUCIA.M "Quark, Lucia Marcantonio,PRT" MOLLY.G "Quark, Molly Gookin,PRT" QUARK.CS "Quark Int'l,PRT" QUARK.FR "Quark, Catherine Volland,PRT" QUARK.GRMY "Quark, Catherine Volland,PRT" QUARK.J.DVJ "Quark Inc/Yuko Hayakawa,IDV" QUARK.J2.DVJ "Kazunori Hori, Quark,IDV" QUARK.LOCAL "Quark, Donna Williams,PRT" QUARK.QPS "Quark, John Stroud,PRT" QUARK.UK "Quark, Catherine Volland,PRT" QUARKTECH "Quark Suppt,PRT" QUARKXT "Quark, Dave Knoshaug,PRT" RALPH.RISCH "Quark Inc., Ralph Risch,CST" RON.STALMAN "Quark, Ron Stalman,PRT" S.FRIEDMAN "Quark, Susan Friedman,PRT" XPRESS.MAC "Quark, Jay McBeth,PRT" -- Bill Moynihan Internet=moynihan@venice.sedd.trw.com or AppleLink=moynihan.b ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 15:52:06 -0400 (EDT) From: M1Y@NSVX3.SSD.ORNL.GOV (Mohana Yethiraj (615)576-6069) Subject: Can I translate Word documents to TeX (not text) easily? Hello, Can I translate Word documents to TeX (not text) easily? I would like it for submission to journals that accept only TeX format electronically. I realise that Word is not the most versatile word-processor, but I don't want a TeX word processor (ie OzTeX or TeXtures) - just a translator. Sorry if this question has been answered before. Reply to M1Y@NSVX3.SSD.GOV that's (M-one-Y) Thanks, Mona ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 20:07:01 -0600 From: ehfm@midway.uchicago.edu (Eric Hoffmann) Subject: Contact Software phone # (A) lt10@cornell.edu -- Li-Hsiang Tu writes: > Does anyone have the phone numbers and/or email addresses for > Contact Software International (ACT! for Macintosh) and Soft > Solutions (PowerTrax 1.2)? They are not in the vendor email list in > the archive. Using Bill Baldrige's VendorDA listing (which contains over 800 vendor contact numbers, not 1,000 sorry about that ;-) I come up with: Contact Software: 214/919-9500 800/365-0606 214/919-9750 (FAX) Bill's listing doesn't include Soft Solutions. The only listing I have for a company by that name is: Soft Solutions 907 River Road Suite #98 Eugene, OR 97404 503/461-1136 but this company specializes in Mac repair so I am not sure if it is the same one... PS. if you download and use Bill's VendorDA listing, please send along the $10 shareware fee he is requesting. -EH ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 93 09:50:25 -0700 From: Leslie_Ballentine@sfu.ca Subject: Date formats >I'm running a Quadra 700 with System 7.0.1. I prefer >to view files "By Name," but hate the verbose form >for the "Last Modified" date. Does anyone know a (share >ware or freeware) utility to make it print in short >form (mm/dd/yy)? Even better would be to have the form (dd/mm/yy). One can make a case for year-month-day, or for day-month-year, but the inside-out form month-day-year is indefensible. Come on, America, get into step with the rest of the world! And how about adopting the metric system too? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 18:35:02 PDT From: Bill Lipa Subject: Default directory setter What is the most reliable method of getting System 7 AppleEvent-aware applications to set the document directory as the default instead of the application directory? For example, when you double-click on a project under Think C 6.0 and then select Open..., the directory you see is the Think C 6.0 application directory. I want it to be the directory containing the project. Two questions really: - How can I fix this as a user of these applications (Think C is not the only one -- I believe it is any application that is core AppleEvent aware)? - As a developer, can I fix it for the apps I write without hacking in low memory? I am interested in any and all methods -- shareware, commercial, ResEdit, etc., as long as they are reliable and unobtrusive. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 93 12:21:51 EDT From: Jeremy Goldman Subject: Directories & Subdirectories Just a brief note -- Someone mentioned something about a "Scrollback Limit" in NSCA telnet. Actually, you can change that default (100 lines) very easily. When you open a session, just click on the 'configure' button & change the value. -- Jeremy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 09:59:00 +0000 From: Graham Allsopp Subject: Diskless Macs Stan Diamond asked about diskless Macs. By coincidence, yesterday, our campus Academic Computing Services newsletter arrived, which mentions our Macintosh provision; an extract follows: "The public service is based around Macintosh LC IIs, with 10 MB memory maths coprocessor, 1.44 MB 3.5" floppy disc drive and industry standard colour VGA monitor. These machines do not have a local hard disk but get all their software from file servers, across the Ethernet LAN. This ensures that a user is guaranteed a consistent environment, which is extremely difficult to ensure on hard disc machines. Sheffield was the first UK university to use this technique." We have around 200 public-access Macs, so it is a viable concept, and I assume it works reasonably reliably. Don't quote me on this, but I think it's marketed as part of the Sonic Systems Ethernet stuff. I haven't been able to contact the author of the article to see if he agrees to be bombarded with questions about this, but if anyone wants to contact me direct, I will try and find out a specific answer. Graham Allsopp, Dept of Geography, University of Sheffield, UK G.Allsopp@Sheffield.ac.uk; Phone: 0742 824741 (direct line); Fax: 0742 722199 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 93 00:43:34 -0700 From: Jon Pugh Subject: Falcon MC Update Concerning the update to Falcon MC that was mentioned in the April issue of Inside Mac Games, I wrote to the address on the inside of my Falcon manual, 76004.2144@CompuServe.COM, and got this response: > We are working on a update for Falcon MC, but it is still undergoing > compatibility testing. It should be available early next month. At that > time, send me the following: > Name > Address > Telephone Number > Product Name > Product Serial Number > Request for a Update disk. So, we are required to wait for it, and I am. Jon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 93 16:35:10 PDT From: 9531sons%ucsbuxa@hub.ucsb.edu (Jamie Sonsini) Subject: Fund-raising Software Recommendations Needed Carol - I serve on the board of directors for a local organization (Klien Bottle Youth Services) in Santa Barbara county. They've asked me to put together a recommendation for their computing needs. I haven't even begun the interviews and need analysis, but I do know they need to track donors. If you do come across something for the Mac environment, I'd appreciate knowing about it. Thanks, Jamie Sonsini UC Santa Barbara ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 06:06:40 +0000 From: m.stoermer@mailbox.uq.oz.au (Martin Stoermer) Subject: how to make a startup screen >I have seen various startup screens that different people have put >together. Is it possible to use your own picture for a startup......... Sure, if you have PICT file, you can spend up big and buy Superpaint or Canvas which can write in Startup Screen format. To use one, just rename the new file StartupScreen (no spaces and two Upper Case "S's"), and dump it in your system folder. I have an inkling that GifConverter does the same thing as the commercial Big Boy's, but for much!!!!! less dollaro's. If by your question you actually meant a photo of yourself, then you'll have to shell out for a scanner as well. (or ask a friend really nicely). P.S. totally useless suggestion for System 7.2 additions: enable multiple StartupScreens (named StartupScreen1, StartupScreen2 etc.) Sort of like a slide show instead of a startup Quicktime movie. martin ***Martin Stoermer, 3D Centre, University of Queensland, Australia*** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 93 08:26:06 EDT From: sjoyce@sparc2.heidelberg.edu (Sean M. Joyce) Subject: Igor (Numerical Analysis) for the Mac (Q) Hello again! Does anyone know of a package to do numerical recipies and algorithms on the Macintosh called "Igor"? Who publishes it? Where is it available? Is it any good?" As I'm sure this topic is not of interest to the general reader, please send any responeses to my address below. Thanks in advance for any help. ----- Sean M. Joyce sjoyce@heidelberg.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 93 13:36:04 edt From: Maxwell Smart (Oliver Soell) Subject: Installer scripts (Q) Could anyone give me some pointers on writing/decompiling installer scripts? I know that there's a certain tech note at ftp.apple.com with related info, but I think it's buried deep in that three meg "old" tech note archive that I can't get because of my large 100k quota. Thanks for any help. Oliver Soell Dickinson College Soell@Dickinson.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 09:51:43 -0400 (EDT) From: AL BEST Subject: JMP version 3 Anyone wanting information on the new statistical analyses that will be available in JMP version 3 (from SAS Institute), please drop me a note. It includes stuff on: Survival, Stepwise, Scripting, Contour plots, Clustering, and integration of JMP/Design There are also interesting developments "SAS on the Mac" and "JMP under Windows". Al Best Dept of Biostatistics Medical College of Virginia Internet: Best@Ruby.VCU.EDU Caveat: I teach the JMP course for SAS Institute. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 93 12:33:44 -0700 From: moynihan@venice.sedd.trw.com (Bill Moynihan) Subject: Laser Driver 8.0? (A) In article <9305200520.AA28664@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU> you write: > >Date: Tue, 18 May 93 18:34:49 CST >From: Akira >Subject: Laser Driver 8.0? > >Hello, > I saw a post of a person that claimed to have the lated Apple Laser >drivers....i.e. 8.0. I have been searching around for two days, and have >come up on the short end of the stick. Does anyone know where I can find >them? >I have looked on sumex, applelink, AOL, and in ftp.apple. I this person has >them, could he upload them to sumex so we all can join in on the joy. YIA >(Yippeee! in advance) > > >Akira > Akira, On AppleLink check the following path: AppleLink Services->Apple Products->Apple SW Updates->Macintosh->Printing Software. -- Bill Moynihan Internet=moynihan@venice.sedd.trw.com or AppleLink=moynihan.b ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 10:27 PST From: "Phil Jung, KD6SWQ" Subject: LaserWriter Pro 600 vs. HP LaserJet 4M? Hi everyone, Our office's NEC LC890 (yes, the dinosaur) is finally conking out on us, and the service guy has been out here about 4 times in as many months. At $100 a visit, we finally decided that we should just buy a new printer instead... We are presently looking at Apple's LaserWriter Pro 600/630 and the HP Laserjet 4M. Does anyone out there have any real-life experiences with either of the two? What made you decide to buy the printer that you have? Also, at this point, would the LaserWriter IIg be a good deal? Does the Fine Print of the IIg make the output close to the 600 dpi output? We need multiple-computer (Mac/PC) compatiblity, with auto-switching between the ports. Ethernet is a future possibility in our office, so any input on that application would be appreciated. (What about the ethernet-to-parallel port adapters that are out?) This was probably already discussed before, but I never really paid much attention to them, because it didn't apply to me. But, Murphy's law.... If there's a FAQ around, I'd appreciate a gentle or not-so-gentle nudge in the general direction. Thanks! Phil Jung Institute for Information Storage Technology Santa Clara University P.S. We need to make a decision within a week... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 93 09:08 MDT From: "Leslie C. Gay" Subject: Looking for Czech font I've got a friend who does a lot of work with Eastern European languages (especially Czech). Is there a Mac *postscript* font that (easily) supports all the diacritical markers such languages use? It could be public domain or otherwise. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Leslie C. Gay, Jr. E343LG@tamuts.tamu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 10:55 PST From: "Phil Jung, KD6SWQ" Subject: LW Pro 600 vs. HP LJ4M--- OOPS! never mind... Sorry, please ignore my recent request for info regarding the LaserWriter Pro vs. LaserJet 4M comparison. I found the digests that contained this info (end of March), and have almost all my questions answered... Didn't mean to clog up the net with this previously-asked question... Phil Jung 8-) Institute for Information Storage Technology Santa Clara University ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 93 16:38:42 CST From: Fabio@cca.pue.udlap.mx Subject: Mac Expo Boston Hi mac lovers, I have a question: could some one of you tell me the dates of the Expo in Boston ( Mac Expo ) ?? Thank you in advance. Bye Fabio ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 93 10:35:30 EDT From: jdelancy@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil Subject: MAC TCP/SYS 7.1 Has anyone had problems running MAC TCP (v 1.1 Aug 91) with a II-ci and System 7.1? If I leave virtual memory on, it crashes. without VM, it boots and runs fine. Any hints? Is there a new version of MAC TCP and if so whose got it? jd ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 11:03:11 -0600 From: David Bourne Subject: Problems with LocalPath I am using a Mac connected via a localtalk network to a LaserWriter (and other machines). I also have an Ethernet connection to the 'outside'. I had lived with switching networks with the Network Control Panel for some time but it was inconvenient at times. After reading a MacUser review a few months back I decided to try LocalPath. It did mention a 10 user limit on the localtalk portion of the network but it looked like I could limit things to just the LaserWriter. [The localtalk network I'm on has one LaserWriter but about 12 Macs]. LocalPath worked great for a couple of weeks. I occasionally got some messages that I was exceeding the limit of eight but nothing else seemed to happen. Then after rebooting in the middle of the day (When more people had their Macs turned on??) I got a message that LocalPath wouldn't work because of the limited being exceeded. I called Farallon (the publisher) and was told tough that's the way it's supposed to work you need to buy their more expensive router software [This was within a 30 day MBG period with MacConnection]. Well I was looking for a minimal solution in the first place so that wasn't a viable option. I thought I could live with occasional messages and and even less frequent 'no shows' on reboot. WELL I WAS WRONG - IT SEEMS THAT LOCALPATH IS CAPABLE OF DISABLING OTHER USERS ACCESS TO THE LASERWRITER. I had a fellow LocalTalk user come to me complaining that they could no longer see the LaserWriter in the Chooser (also was missing from another machine). Sometimes our network is a little loose so I ran around checking a few other machines including my own and the LaserWriter was showing up fine. It was only after the disconnected LocalPath on my machine that the LaserWriter showed up in all the Mac's Choosers. I have now stopped using LocalPath [This is now outside the 30 days return period]. The reason for this post - other than a little flaming and issue a 'warning' (assuming my observations and conclusions are correct), is to ask for help in choosing another solution. What I want to do is connect ONE Mac II to both the LaserWriter (via LocalTalk) and the Internet via an Ethernet card. I understand the Farallon product PowerPath may do the job but after one discussion with the Farallon tech support which did not mention this product I'm a little less willing to jump into another Farallon product. Any suggestions. David Bourne, OU College of Pharmacy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 93 08:20:56 -0400 From: grzybost@ldcl1.dnet.dupont.com (STAN) Subject: Serial Loop Back Cable Does anyone have the correct pinout for a serial loop back cable??? Please respond directly to me. Stan Grzybowski ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 93 20:40:07 METDST From: Julian Subject: sharing two CDROMs with the same title Dear friends, I hope someone can help me with my problem: I own a Centris 650, and I am facing the task of sharing two CDROMs with the same title ("untitled"). Once I am sharing the first CDPROM, whenever I try to share the second one, I get that annoying message telling me that I am already sharing one volume with that name. Being a non-rewritable CD- ROM, I am unable to change its name. I tried with AppleShare 3.0, with the same results. Is there any solution for this problem? Any hint appreciated. Please, reply directly to my Email address. Julian Veron jveron@ws3.cps.unizar.es Univ. Zaragoza - SPAIN ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 12:24:12 -0400 From: rmiller@thor.ece.uc.EDU (Rick Miller) Subject: Trash Can won't Delete! Help! Running System 7.0.1 on a Mac IIcx, the only way I can delete files is by holding down the option key while dragging file(s) into the trash. This problem just sprang up a week ago. Until then, everything was fine. I've checked everything and -- suppose -- I could reinstall the system; but that seems pretty brute force. Has anyone else encountered this? If so, please help! rmiller@vlsisun.ece.uc.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 93 15:09:36 EDT From: "Michael Gallamore" Subject: upgrade Centris 610 cpu (A) Berry Jonker Writes: > >Dear sirs, > I have a Centris 610 computer with the 68LC040 cpu, and want to >upgrade the cpu to the full 68040. I recall reading an article describing >this upgrade and vendors who could supply the chip, but of course cannot >find it back. Do you know of any vendors who supply this chip and can >provide advice about such an upgrade? The chip is a pin-for-pin >replacement, but there was something about the 68040 requiring a heat sink, >since it ran hotter than the 68LC040. This apparently is not an upgrade >currently offered by Apple or its dealers. I am in the Washington, D.C. >metro area. Thanks for your help. > Berry Jonker I have not done this myself. In fact we do not have any Centris Macs yet, so I haven't seen anyone make the switch. ;) You can put a 68RC040 into the 610 without needing a heat sink, because the 610 itself runs at only 20MHz, thus you are only running the 68RC040 at 20MHz. If the 610 ran at 25MHz, like the 650, then a heat sink would be required. A vendor for the 68RC040 is: Sonnet Technologies, Inc. 1-800-945-3668 Price: $375 Not that you asked, but if you upgrade the processor, the only speed difference will be for operations involving floating point calculations. Also, most programs use integer math, and thus the fpu portion of the full 040 does not speed them up. Hope this helps. :) Michael Gallamore, (703)663-8538 NSWCDD gallamore@g24mac1.nswc.navy.mil or gallamore@mv2.nswc.navy.mil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 93 12:22:27 CDT From: Graeme Forbes Subject: ZiffNet/Mac Am I just old fashioned, or is anyone else taken aback by the we-can- get-away-with-it-and-no one-knows-what-the-legal-outcome-would-be-so let's-do-it attitude of some recents posts to info-mac about the Ziff/Net Mac license business? I don't doubt for a moment that the legal situation over this kind of software license could provide Dan Seligman with a year's material for his "Only in America" column in Fortune. But the issue of principle is stunningly clear. Look. After years of labor I've finally completed my Super-Duper Utilities package for System 4.2. And I'd like to make some money out of it, so forget shareware. But I don't have the resources to market it myself. And Gates has politely declined to buy me out. Then these Ziff/Net chaps make me a nice offer. A lump sum, which they'll recoup from people who download it off their boards, is coming my way, provided I agree that only ZF/Mac can distribute the program. It's *my* program and that's the arrangement *I* like. If *you* want super duper utilities for System 4.2 for free, go write some yourself. Do not download mine from an archive where it has been put in violation of my wishes. Meanwhile, Super-Duper Utilities for System 4.2 has been upgraded to the wicked-fast Super-Duper Utilities for System 5. I try to get the same deal from Ziff/Net but they tell me they don't do it any more, so much of their stuff has been uploaded to other boards that they don't recoup their fees. Thanks guys. The people who uploaded my program for free copying elsewhere in knowing violation of the arrangement I entered into with Ziff/Net *are* jerks and Adam Engst doesn't have to apologize for saying so. Perhaps they can get away with it. So what? Graeme Forbes ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 16:24:52 From: charlie.mingo@his.com (Charlie Mingo) Subject: ZiffNet/Mac Software (c) Dennis Summerbell writes: > Adam, you'd have done better to restrain youself immediately > after posting you apology for not declaring the conflict of > interest. Now I feel that you should at least withdraw the > word "jerk" and preferably apologise a second time. As I see > it, this discussion was reasoned, you introduced the flames. Adam should apologize for nothing. He didn't say that Jonathan Bauer was a jerk, he said that people who copied software without permission were jerks, because they broke the agreement between author and user. Jonathan never claimed to have pirated software, and so Adam's epithet did not refer to him. > The correspondent supporting Adam fortunately returned to > argument rather than flames. (Unfortunately, at least in my > copy, the piece was "unsigned"). I'd take issue with him/her > on a couple of points. My posts were not "unsigned". Several readers replied to me by email, and another post in this very digest refers to me by name. > I think that you should follow your own advice and be more > careful in "quoting" law: > I don't query your interpretation of the word "exclusive", > but is that right absolute. Presumably sections 107-120 deal > with extensions AND exclusions, what did they say? This is a computer digest, not a law review. Sure I can quote to you the entire copyright statute, but that would take up many, many screenfulls of text. Some readers may already think this thread is taking up too much space. My point was that Jonathan Bauer seemed to believe that he was not bound by anyone's license, absent a "binding legal determination" otherwise. I quoted the Copyright Act to indicate that Ziff has "exclusive rights" to its software by operation of the statute, and that no prior legal determination was required. If you want to read the copyright act yourself, so as to try to formulate an intelligent response to the statutory argument, I suggest you telnet to fatty.law.cornell.edu, port 8210, and log in as 'www'. If you can't be bothered to do that, then just note the headings of sections 107-120: 17 USC 107. Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use. 17 USC 108. Limitations on exclusive rights: Reproduction by libraries... 17 USC 109. Limitation on exclusive rights: Effect of transfer of of particular copy or phonorecord 17 USC 110. Limitation on exclusive rights: Exemption of certain performances and displays 17 USC 111. Limitation on exclusive rights: Secondary transmission... [relates to cable systems and hotel TV systems] 17 USC 112. Limitations on exclusive rights: Ephemeral recordings. 17 USC 113. Scope of exclusive rights in pictorial, graphic, and s... 17 USC 114. Scope of exclusive rights in sound recordings. 17 USC 115. Scope of exclusive rights in nondramatic musical works... 17 USC 116. Scope of exclusive rights in nondramatic musical work... 17 USC 116A. Negotiated licenses for public performances by means ... 17 USC 117. Limitations on exclusive rights: Computer programs. Notwithstanding the provisions of section 106, it is not an infringement for the owner of a copy of a computer program to make or authorize the making of another copy or adaptation of that computer program provided: (1) that such a new copy or adaptation is created as an essential step in the utilization of the computer program in conjunction with a machine and that it is used in no other manner, or (2) that such new copy or adaptation is for archival purposes only and that all archival copies are destroyed in the event that continued possession of the computer program should cease to be rightful. Any exact copies prepared in accordance with the provisions of this section may be leased, sold, or otherwise transferred, along with the copy from which such copies were prepared, only as part of the lease, sale, or other transfer of all rights in the program. Adaptations so prepared may be transferred only with the authorization of the copyright owner. 17 USC 118. Scope of exclusive rights: Use of certain works in connection with noncommercial broadcasting 17 USC 119. Limitations on exclusive rights: Secondary transmissions of superstations and network stations for private home viewing 17 USC 120. Scope of exclusive rights in architectural works. > In the hypothetical case of someone posting the software and > my down- loading it I would have done nothing illegal. Ziffnet's > gripe would be with their licensee who did the downloading. Your mistake is that you are ignoring Section 106, which gives Ziff the "exclusive right" to authorize distribution. If you don't have a license from Ziff granting you permission, then you don't have any rights to use the software, and you are breaking the law. Copyright law would be pretty useless if it only restricted copying by people who had a license, and did not restrict copying by people who were never granted any sort of permission to do anything. > What has attracted our > interest to the ZiffNet case is that we have a situation where > the envelope has been stretched still further. Any opinion > expressed, even if it were that of a copyright lawyer, would > be speculative. I haven't seen any legal reason to believe Ziff was "stretching the envelope". No one has pointed to a single provision of _copyright_ law which is inconsistant with Ziff's license. > Here's my speculation. ZiffNet wouldn't have > a chance of enforcing their license. Remember: the license is the legal document granting _permission_ to copy the software. The copyright is granted by _statute_, and is always binding on everyone. If your license is invalid, then you have no right to use (or possess) the software, and must destroy all copies immediately. A person who posseses Ziff's software, and who is not covered by the Ziff license, is breaking the law regardless of whether the license is valid or not. Thus, (to return to the source of this thread) Internet ftp sites would be breaking the law if they were to carry Ziff's software. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 93 23:03:56 -0700 From: Jon Pugh Subject: ZiffNet CopyWrongs Personally, I think the ZiffNet "free but don't upload" restrictions are wrong for a variety of reasons. I don't care about enforcement or any of that stuff. I just think they are a bad idea. The idea of restricting information is foolish and detrimental to society. I know that there are a number of very useful utilities that ZiffNet had done that will not benefit people because they don't have access. For example, they have a nice database of every Macintosh ever made with specs and capabilities. They also have several Hypercard stacks that are expert systems designed to aid you in purchasing decisions when buying Macs, drives and printers. It doesn't make sense to only allow certain people to have this information and I wish there were a way to make this known to the ZiffNet people. The problem is that they only carry their own software there, otherwise I would encourage authors to make "ZiffNet prohibited" clauses on their software. Face it, the ZiffNet guys are snobs. They could get much more advertising by allowing their nifty stuff, with their contact information, to circulate freely. This way, only people who've signed up will know what's available. Elitism at it's worst. I call it "computerized inbreeding". Jon No right of private conversation was enumerated in the constitution. I don't suppose it occurred to anyone at the time that it could be prevented. -- Whitfield Diffie, Sun Microsystems ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************